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Keith Edwards:
Hello and welcome to Student Affairs NOW. I’M your host Keith Edwards. Today we have a very special episode as I am joined by several hosts of student affairs-related podcasts. We’Re calling this our podcast jamboree. Student Affairs NOW is the premier podcast and online learning community for thousands of us who work in, alongside, or adjacent to the field of higher education and student affairs. We release new episodes every week on Wednesdays. Find details about this episode or browse our archives at studentaffairsnow.com. Today’S episode is a special bonus episode brought to you by Colorado State Online. CSU Online is now offering a fully online Master of Science in Student Affairs to help you succeed as a higher education administrator. As I mentioned, I am your host, Keith Edwards, my pronouns are he, him, his. I’M a speaker, consultant, and coach. You can find out more about me at KeithEdwards.com.

Keith Edwards:
I am broadcasting from Minneapolis, MN at the intersections of the ancestral homelands of the Dakota and Ojibwe peoples. Let’s get to the conversation! Today is a special bonus episode where we are joined by several of our fellow student affairs-related podcast hosts. We reached out to a big group of people and to our shocking surprise. So many of you could make it. We had like just a couple who weren’t able to make it. So we’ve got a very large group, which is great. But we’re going to try and move things along and have this really be informative to our listeners and learn about each other and share his good colleagues. So, so excited to learn more and connect with all of you. Like I said, we’re going to be a little bit directive. We’re going to do an intro here for each podcast about what they’re doing and how they’re doing it. And then we’ve got four exciting lightning round questions that we’ll zip around to all of the folks in the group. We’ve got this organized and ready to go. We’re going to kick off with ACUHO-I Stories. Go ahead, Grant. Tell us all about it.

Grant Walters:
Hi everybody. Thanks for having me. I really appreciate it. My name is Grant Walters. I’m the director of educational programs at the ACUHO-I central office in Columbus, Ohio. I’ve been there for about six years now. He, him, his pronouns. So the name of our podcast is pretty self-explanatory ACUHO-I Stories. A lot of what we produce educationally tends to be very formal and structured, lots of question and answer lots of informative pieces. So the podcast that we designed is very much designed to tell the stories of our members and help them share some of their backgrounds, their pathways to leadership. And we didn’t have a lot of ways in which we do that on a pretty regular basis. We thought about doing a podcast about five or six years ago when I first started and lots of things got in the way of that.

Grant Walters:
So this year we sort of took advantage of some of the shifting work responsibilities. We had to develop one. So we’ve had several guests on Dr. [inaudible] and Jerry Kowalski and other folks in our field who are absolute gems have been co-hosts with me. So my job is basically to be the voice and I produce it, but we’ve been featuring a lot of our members who have been sharing lots about their background studies passion work and things like that as well. It’s been a lot of fun. We’re pretty new. We’ve only done about four or five episodes now, so we’re still learning. I think the things that we’re particularly proud of is how well it’s been it’s come together in a short amount of time. We’ve learned a lot about recording and producing sort of along the way by trial and error. And so, you know, in a short amount of time, I think we’ve produced a really nice little program. So we’re excited. We’re a little bit of a hiatus right now with a lot of programming going on. We’re hoping to do more very shortly and pretty excited to to see where it goes. So thank you. Yeah.

Keith Edwards:
Welcome to the podcast universe Grant new episodes, and really glad to have you here and sharing this and hearing what you’re learning as we go. Let’s go over to Dr. Alexandra with ASCA Student Conduct.

Alexandra Hughes:
Hello everyone. Thank you so much for having me. So like I said, my name is Dr. Alexandra Hughes I go by Alexandra. My students call me like Dr. Beyonce, which I’m totally okay with. So I, you know, that’s kind of my, my spiel Again, So excited to be here. So I’m the current host of The ASCA Viewpoints podcast, which is the podcast where we talk all things, student conduct and higher education. Let’s see, during the day, right by night, I’m a podcast host during the day. I’m actually the education specialist for ASCA. So the association for student conduct administration, I have thoroughly enjoyed working with them. So how that actually started is because Jill Creighton, Dr. Creighton, who’s on here. Who’s actually, she’s the host of another podcast was the original person who kind of founded or started this podcast to say the least.

Alexandra Hughes::
And so she had this vision many years ago, really looking at featuring just voices in our field, as we all know, we all have different perspectives, different experiences. And so being able to really get the viewpoints of people, whether you’re a president, you know, who’s been doing this for many, many years, or you just started out of grad school yesterday, like whatever that is, you have something to contribute. And so we wanted to make sure we could feature that. So I was so fortunate. She was the first host after her. I kind of came on and we’ve been doing it now for a couple years, getting in really good episodes. And we’ve even gone so far as to really just give like tips and tricks and all these things. And really just how to handle student conduct because student conduct is hard to say the least. And so that’s what we’re here to do. I love it. I’m excited. It’s so much fun. And just like student conduct, you never know what you’re going to get. So I guess it’s pretty good that with the podcast, you never know what you’re going to get. So yeah, that’s ASCA Viewpoints podcast, so everyone should subscribe and go from there and check it out.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. So glad to have you here and your enthusiasm and energy is jumping out Being the Dot with the stage name Dr. Stacey, go ahead, Dr. Stacey,

Stacey Pearson-Wharton:
Hey everybody. I that to Stacey Pearson-Wharton she, her, her pronouns, I have the privilege of serving as the Dean of Health and Wellness and Director of the Counseling Center at Susquehanna University i by day. And then one of my side hustles is I actually host a podcast called Being the Dot. And Being the Dot, is I have the opportunity to interview black, brown, yellow, and red people who are thriving in predominantly white spaces. And it really, I would probably call it a higher ed adjacent podcasts, more so than a podcast I’ve interviewed golfers and chess players and CEOs of fortune 500 companies. And part of my goal is to really try to build a playbook to help BIPOC folks, not just survive in predominantly white environments, but thrive 39 episodes in and with about close to 6,000 downloads, but a good it’s my pandemic passion project,

Keith Edwards:
Right. And we’ve already heard this from several folks from grant to wanting to in this pandemic way to reach members gathering in person, not as, not as possible. So other ways to, to reach folks and learning and professional development, let’s go to a Higher Ed Geek – Dustin, you might be the most veteran among us, I might be wrong about this, but I think you have had the longest running podcast. I think I was a guest on, in like 2015 or something like that. Tell us about your podcast and where it started and where it’s evolving to.

Dustin Ramsdell:
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so happy to be here and I’ll clarify, cause I’ve hosted two different podcasts student affairs, Collective podcast back in the day and now the Higher Ed Geek podcast. So collectively it’s been yeah, maybe seven years of podcasting, but yeah, I just love the medium. So yeah, my name is Dustin Ramsdell coming to everybody from Delaware today. My pronouns are he him, his. I’m the host of the hierarchy podcast. We get geeky about things like ed tech, policy and new innovative practices and higher ed and things like digital student engagement and all that good stuff. Yeah. And we’ve been going for over a hundred episodes. I’m just really proud of you know, a lot of things with it is kind of I know for a lot of folks with these podcasts kind of a passion project you know, we’ve had a lot of diversity of guests and topics.

Dustin Ramsdell:
Like some recent ones are on helping students find scholarships. Some folks that are, you know, doing some grassroots efforts there, international exchange programs, and gap years, which is certainly a very timely topic. And yeah, I mean, it’s just been a super great learning experience for me and I know it’s been the same for others and yeah, I mean, there’s no end in sight. So I just really enjoy connecting with folks and, you know, talked a lot of the folks on this call for various episodes throughout the years, but yeah, really grateful to be here.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Well, thanks to leading the way and giving us all something to follow and aspire to appreciate that Josie and the Podcast Josie, tell us about what you’re doing.

Josie Ahlquist:
Hey, y’all Josie Ahlquist here logging in from Los Angeles. I use she her pronouns and I am the Josie of Josie and the Podcast, which started in 2016. I work to connect technology and leadership and higher education. And really what that means is humanizing, how we use technology through emotion and empathy and authenticity. So I feature leaders from campus presidents to digital strategists and student affairs professionals who are doing the work. So we can make meaning of tools and not just have them as busy work. And the podcast is on a little bit of a pause as I’ve been doing lots of other digital communication tools like webinars and community building. But I absolutely love to be reconnected with podcasting crew, like I am here with today. So thanks for having me.

Keith Edwards:
And you had a book birthday yesterday?

Josie Ahlquist:
I did. Oh yeah. The book, well, what’s interesting too, is the podcast was the research for the book. I know we’re going to talk about resources later, but take those interviews and put them out. In other ways, audio waves are amazing, but I transcribed all my interviews and it was fuel for the book. And I did not realize that when I started the podcast. And so, yeah. Thank you. And thank you for the celebration.

Keith Edwards:
Yeah. Awesome. Michelle, tell us about Latinx Intelligensia.

Michelle Espino Lira:
Well, everyone Michelle Espino Lira associate professor in the higher education student affairs and international education policy program at the university of Maryland College Park, which is on the lands of the Piscataway and Anacosta and the Touchtanock people. My pronouns are she her and hers and in ella and my podcast focuses on uplifting Latinx, Latina, Latino communities, and higher education. We interview students and faculty, administrators, policy makers, and community leaders to talk about how we don’t just survive higher education, but we can thrive through it. And one of the things that I love I’m offering, we started in August of 2019 and really inspired shout out to Scholar Tea cause I think like I had been thinking about doing this as a blog and realized I really love podcasts and Scholar Tea is what inspired me.

Michelle Espino Lira:
And so we are now in season five of our podcast have logo 2.0, so excited to showcase that unveil it this year. And we have two segments. We have a poet in residence and Resistencia who was Sarah Gonzalez who worked with a youth poets in Tucson, Arizona before moving to Detroit. And now we have Cecilia Caballero, who is a doctoral student in American studies and ethnic studies at University of Southern California, who also part of the Chicana Motherwork Collective. They also had a podcast. And so she’s bringing exceptional poetry that focuses on mothering and parenthood. and then I also had the academic hype team that is hyping up academic work out there. So if you ever want to nominate a Latinx or Latino scholar practitioner, faculty member, a policymaker, who’s doing good work and needs some hype believe the hype with these folks because they are the ones that are doing it for us.

Michelle Espino Lira:
And then finally, just as something that I’m really, really proud of is our podcasts are getting out there as public scholarship. And so this is something that we’re really advocating for. I’m really glad that my chair, William Liu is really supportive of my podcast. And so is my college of ed. And so in our promotion and tenure podcasts and other kinds of creative work is being seen as public scholarship. And that is just so vital to give credit, especially for communities of color who are advocating for our people in higher education things.

Keith Edwards:
Yeah. That’s a great way to reach different audiences or reach the same audiences in different ways. We were talking this morning about, I can read a book and then talk, discuss with the author and it’s a completely different experience, a tone context, a personal connection. It’s awesome. Awesome. So, thanks for joining us today. We’ve got two NASPA connected podcasts. So let’s start with NASPA Leadership – Dr. V

Dr. V:
Hello friends. And thanks for letting me join you all today. My name is Dr. Chanoo. I Use He Him, His Pronouns, And I am an assistant professor of organizational and community leadership at the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign. I’m here representing the NASPA student leadership programs, knowledge community podcast. this is a podcast that I co-host with Kathy Guthrie and Cameron Beatty – both of whom are faculty in the higher education program at Florida State University. This season on the NASPA SLP KC podcast, we are trying to amplify the voices of people who are doing work in culturally relevant and socially just leadership education. the NASPA SLP KC has actually been around for a little while. It really started with Myles Surrett and some of his co-conspirators, but over the last year or so, it’s sort of fallen into hiatus. And so I am, and we are particularly proud of being the force that is bringing it back. We’re super excited about the relaunch and we’re hoping that it really turns into something that people can look forward to for years to come. So with that, I’ll sort of wrap up my edge.

Keith Edwards:
Yeah, thanks. I’m glad you’re able to be here on behalf of your colleagues. We have, our next team is the Relay SA team, our Canadian colleagues, Adam, and Nadia love the concept of this. Go ahead and tell us about it.

Adam Kuhn:
Thanks for having us, what a treat to be here with everyone. My name is Adam Kuhn. I use he him and they, them pronouns. I’m the director of student engagement at the university of Toronto in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

Nadia Rosemond:
My name is Nadia Rosemond. I use she her pronouns and I’m the assistant Dean of co-curricular engagement and student leadership at University of Toronto Scarborough campus.

Adam Kuhn:
And we are the co-hosts of Relay SA, which started in 2016 and it is a relay based podcast. So every person we interview, the very last question we ask them is who should we interview next? And that kind of creates the roster of people that we hit up to try to interview. And it is it’s pretty exciting. We’ve have a number of relays on the go. And we try to have folks from across Canada in lots of different functional areas, institution, types, identities, and social locations. And I think Nadia, and I always just say, it’s our best PD doing this, doing this podcast because our best PD, cause we get to interview and have one-on-one or two one-on-one time with some pretty incredible colleagues. I don’t know if you would agree with this Nadia, but I think my favorite or proudest moment was the relay essay live that we did at CACUSS honoring the Canadian association of college and university student services conference. We did a relay live. So every person we brought up an interviewed and recorded it, and then they reached into a jar, pull out a name of who we were going to interview next. And so we created that unscripted but it was a very rich and compelling conversation. Talking about lots of the important issues that are taking place on our campuses in Canada.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Well, I thought I loved the idea of having this guest suggest the next guest and why, and give you the intro. I didn’t know you had done it live and drawing out of a hat that’s that sounds like some podcast high, high wire act so good for you. You’re very brave. Roompact’s Res Ed chat – Paul, tell us about what you’re doing.

Paul Brown:
Yeah, thanks, Keith. I’m excited to be here. I’m also happy to see all these like fancy microphones and beautiful voices that sound so, you know, enriching from all these other podcasters. You can always tell a podcast or cause they’re the one that comes in with a fancy mic to the zoom via, but my name is Paul Brown. I use he him pronouns. I work as an independent speaker and consultant, but my full-time job is working for a software company called Roompact, which makes residence life and education software. And so that’s kind of where this podcast came to be. We were thinking about ways of engaging, not only just the people that use our software, but really anyone in kind of the residence life, residential education, student learning kind of sphere. And that’s kind of how we came to be with this podcast.

Paul Brown:
Now, at the time we were talking about it, there wasn’t really another Res Ed housing related podcast, but ACUHO-I beat us to the punch by launching in March we launched a few months later. But I mean it hearkens way back to Jamie and Ed on duty, which is a way old podcast from Break Drink days if folks know what that is. But there really hasn’t been something focused on that topic since that point. And so we wanted to bring that back. We also kind of wanted to break the mold a little bit in terms of format. So we call it a digital variety hour. So it could be an interview. It could be a webinar, it could be answering reader questions. It could be any number of things. It can be 20 minutes, it could be 40 minutes.

Paul Brown:
We try to mix it up and keep it kind of fresh in terms of different formats and things like that. But really when it comes down to it it’s all about my passion, which is residence life and higher education and things of that sort. So Roompact sponsors it, but content could relate to Roompact it could completely not relate to Roompact. We just want to help ResLife and, and education professionals do their best work and highlight some of the great things that are going on. But that’s us. That’s us./

Keith Edwards:
Great. Thanks for being here, Paul, and as you point out, one of the benefits of podcasts, there’s not a lot of rules, right? If you’re presenting at a conference has gotta be 50 minutes or 60 minutes with a podcast and this one deserves this, this one deserves this, this one here. So there’s that flexibility. Our next podcast, the meeting after the meeting has a whole host of hosts and we only have a few of them here, but we’ve got four of them here. So I’ll let them jump in here and talk about the Meeting after the Meeting.

David Hibbler Jr:
All right. Hello everyone. My name is Dr. David Hibbler, Jr. And I use he him pronouns. And I have the fortunate opportunity of serving as the associate director of residential education at the university of south Florida on the Tampa campus.

LaFarin Meriwether:
Hello everyone. My name is Dr. LaFarin Meriwether I’m the associate director for residence life at UNC Greensboro and my pronouns, are she hers.

Curtis Dugar:
Everybody Curtis Dugar. I serve as the director for residential and dining services at East Stroudsburg University. And I use he him his pronouns.

Quina Stone:
Hello, my name’s Quiana Stone. My pronouns are she her hers. I serve as an associate director within the department of residential education at DePaul University in Chicago. A little bit about our podcast. There we are. Well, before I start, we are representing part of the crew we are missing today. Bobby Cole and Antonio Pee and Brian Johnson. And so for our group, we’ve kind of grown up within higher education. Within specifically, our areas of expertise have been housing residence life and navigated our little circle together as we’ve accomplished doctoral degrees, elevating positions and just navigating adulting one-on-one as we all met each other. I won’t say how old we are, but moving into that it was a happy accident, thanks to Curtis of hitting the bat phone, if you will, and pulling us together. And from that sparked discussion of how we can contribute and give back of how we help to each other when we’re having those conversations and how we can give that forward, especially to a profession that has given so much to us.

Quina Stone:
We also found as we have started, some of us started to transition out of higher ed that our topics, our challenges, our opportunities cross industry. So from there, we all sit in meetings. We love our jobs and we love meetings, but we all know that there’s a meeting after the meeting. So our podcast focuses on navigating that career in community and giving voice to the voiceless and you know, how we are working, especially right now with the pandemic, how are we working in doing our jobs and handling all the things that are typically normal in a very un-normal time,

Keith Edwards:
Awesome anymore from Meeting after the Meeting. You’re good. Thank you all for being here and for sharing that we’ve got two more podcasts to go. Let’s go to Jill and NASPA Voices from the Field.

Jill Creighton:
Thanks, Keith. And it is so amazing to be in this room with all of you and sharing the space on our podcast journeys. I’m Dr. Jill Creighton. I use she, her and hers pronouns and I host and produce SA Voices from the Field a NASPA podcast. SA Voices is a show where we feature your student affairs stories from fresh perspectives to seasoned experts. And my goal really is to provide free and accessible professional development. We know that equity and professional development is really challenging, especially amongst the budget cuts. And so I’m always trying to bring on folks who, first of all, maybe haven’t had a chance to be represented in other spaces. And second can provide their expertise on a topic from a perspective that maybe we haven’t heard before. So please join us on our feed to learn all about what’s happening this season.

Jill Creighton:
We have just launched season five, our new reality, and we’re focusing on all of the things that have changed in the last 18 months and how that’s affecting our practice. I can see at least three people on this recording today who have also been voices on the show. And I welcome all of you to join us as well. We are also produced by Dr. Chris Lewis. He him, his Dr. Lewis is also the founder of the student affairs KC and NASPA for academic student affairs partnership. So he’s the amazing audio behind the scenes and the original host of essay voices from the field was Dr. Corliss Bennett, who is out on the West coast in California. So we are rolling and we are about to celebrate our 100th episode as well. So that’s coming up episode six of the season.

Keith Edwards:
Ah, congratulations. Thanks for being here. And our last one already got a shout out and a mention, but let’s bring in Scholar Tea and Shawna

Shawna Patterson-Stephens:
Good afternoon, everyone. I’m Shawna Patterson-Stephens, She, her first and I serve as the chief diversity officer at Central Michigan University. My co-host is Dr. Cameron Beatty. He’s an assistant professor at Florida state university and higher education. And honestly, Scholar Tea came together because we like to Kiki. Cameron is my chosen family. And we often come together to just talk about different things that are going on in our life. Because we’re both in higher education, of course we’d be remissed to talk about the things that are happening in higher education. And so most recently at an ASHE conference, we came together again to spill some tea and we decided, well, we should make this more of a platform. Something that’s open to people who are also experiencing the same things that we’re observing. And so we decided to create Scholar Tea, which is a higher ed pop higher ed podcast for the culture.

Shawna Patterson-Stephens:
It’s a cultural mashup of humor and tips and scholar interviews. We talk about contemporary issues in higher education about we’re centering the voices of marginalized individuals in higher education, which is really, really important to us. Hopefully we can get together again soon. Like Dr. Espino mentioned earlier we’re really proud of making sure that literature theory different methodologies are made legible and accessible to the public. And, you know, COVID-19 threw us off a little bit, but we’re coming back. We’re really proud of the fact that we’ve still been able to create content in the midst of everything that’s been happening. So take a look at our, our most recent offerings for women’s history month. And we look forward to publishing a new season soon.

Keith Edwards:
Yeah. Great. Thanks so much. Shawna. I want to go back to Jill go back. I think you wanted to add one more thing.

Jill Creighton:
Yeah. I forgot to mention my day gig. I want to make sure that gets out in space tooS I spend my days at Washington State University in the inland Pacific Northwest serving in the role of associate vice president for student affairs and Dean of students and deputy title nine coordinator.

Keith Edwards:
That’s a lot of titles, Jill. That’s a lot of titles. The thing that I’m hearing with all of these is passion projects, and then you want it to be more of service, right? This is what I care about. This is what we’re invested in. This is what we were talking about, and we wanted to reach more people. We want to invite more voices. We wanted to broaden the conversation. We wanted to get it out, or we were having these great conversations that others could be of help. And that’s certainly the case for Student Affairs Now as well. Just want folks to know that we’ve got, we’re going to get all these folks links and logos and info in the show notes that will all be on the webpage. So if you’re not tracking all of this, as we move very quickly, we’ll all be there sitting and waiting for you. So you can connect with these awesome podcasts and all the cool things they’re doing. But now we’re going to move into the lightning round. We’ve got four questions we’ve asked past each podcast. So some of the folks who got more than one person we’ve, we’ve broken it up a little bit for questions, and we’re just going to go really quickly. And the first one is what’s the podcast you listen to most regularly out. What’s the podcast you as most, most regular

Shawna Patterson-Stephens:
J.ill.

Keith Edwards:
J.ill. All right, Jill, how about you?

Jill Creighton:
This is so boring, but it’s NPR up first.

Keith Edwards:
Great. Daviud.

David Hibbler Jr:
I’m going to second, Dr. Jill’s. I do also listen to NPR as well, but my favorite is Crime Junkie. So I’m a huge murder mystery.

Keith Edwards:
Got it. Awesome. Paul, what do you listen to?

Paul Brown:
I’m not trying to play to the hosts here, but it is in fact, Student Affairs Now.

Paul Brown:
2 bonus points for Paul. Very well done, very well done.

Nadia Rosemond:
I like Armchair Expert and for some additional humor Los Culturistas is one of favorites.

Keith Edwards:
Oh, I’ve never even heard of that Los Culturistas. Awesome. V?

Dr. V:
I’m also on the NPR train. Wait, Wait, Don’t Tell Me the weekly NPR news quiz.

Keith Edwards:
Well, in fairness, the NPR does have a whole bunch of podcasts. So I think we are doing OK. Michelle, what do you listen to?

Michelle Espino Lira:
Intersectionality Matters. So Kimberly Crenshaw, She drops knowledge all the time.

Josie Ahlquist:
Well, if you want to feel all the feels, Glennon Doyle came out of the podcast this last year called We Can Do Hard Things.

Keith Edwards:
Yeah. Yeah. Dustin, what have you listened to?

Dustin Ramsdell:
I wanted to go with the Future You but it was one, like a lot of, lots of people have mentioned. I also listened to pretty regularly, but I try not to be

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Great Stacy

Stacey Pearson-Wharton:
Therapy for Black Girls by the other psychologist who was just doing an amazing job at putting mental health in topics related to it to folks is highly accessible. And it’s amazing.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Say that again.

Stacey Pearson-Wharton:
Truth’s Table is a table for black women about black women in faith communities.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Awesome. Alexandra.

Alexandra Hughes:
Ooh, this is so hard. I listened to so many. Okay. I’m going to do a Wrongful Convictions because I love that. Maybe it’s like, you know, with my work and also listen to The Read. I have to do that for the culture. The Read is my favorite. Okay.

Keith Edwards:
Yes, yes. All right. And Grant, what are you listen to?

Grant Walters:
In my after hours life, I’m a music and comedy freelance writer. And so for me, it’s Song Exploder

Grant Walters:
And Conan O’Brien Needs a Friend.

Keith Edwards:
Oh yeah. Yeah. Well, I’ll add mine in here. The one I listened to most regularly is On Being with Krista Tippett, which is recorded right here in Minneapolis. So I love that one. I said I was going to change the gallery view. So we’ll get together view here. Oh, we’re going to do another lightning round question. Who is your dream guest? We’re going to go in reverse order. Grant, who is your dream guest?

Grant Walters:
It is Michelle Obama.

Keith Edwards:
Took half the room. Alexandra. What’s your dream guest? Who’s your dream guest.

Alexandra Hughes:
Okay. So I’m going to have to go Beyonce, because I started off with Beyonce. So it has to be Beyonce.

Keith Edwards:
Stacey

Stacey Pearson-Wharton:
I’m not ready for your jelly doctor! But I would say that one of my other side hustles is I also am a professional speaker. And I have a dream of being on the Oprah Winfrey show that doesn’t exist anymore. So my dream desk is Oprah Gail together.

Keith Edwards:
That’s a good one second, Dustin, I think you had everybody be a guest on your show. Who’s your dream guest that you haven’t gotten yet?

Dustin Ramsdell:
I guess I didn’t take it in this way. Cause that’s like really, really dreamed like mine is like I don’t know, lower tier, but Rachel Carlson, Rachel Carlson from Guild I’ve just been a fan of Guild and their work and everything. So like, I feel like I might actually have her on like the near future, but that’ll feel like a really nice kind of milestone is speaking with.

Keith Edwards:
Sure. Go for it. Go get it. Josie.

Josie Ahlquist:
So my dream guests also, I think I can, I can get it is Renu Khator. She’s the president of the university of Houston. She is the most followed campus president on Twitter by thousands and thousands. She’s such a fun follow and inspirational leader. So go check her out.

Keith Edwards:
Good luck. Good luck Michelle.

Michelle Espino Lira:
Oh gosh. There’s so many, but I’d love to learn more about Sonia Sotomayor I think it’s her journey is amazing.

Keith Edwards:
One of the most impressive public speaking things I ever saw was that NASPA. She did her whole talk, shaking hands with everybody. If you’ve ever held a microphone on stage and tried to keep track of your conversation, I have no idea. And then the 20 secret service agents who freaked everybody out. V who would you love to get?

Dr. V:
I spent the summer reading Caste: The Roots of Our Discontent by Isabella Wilkerson. And so I think that that would be a fascinating conversation to have, especially since we focus on leadership, I would love to hear your thoughts on how we can be better leaders working against intersectional oppression.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome, Adam.

Adam Kuhn:
Yeah. So the model for really, I say, can it be a bit limited limiting because people just want to hear from VPs and presidents and directors. So I’d be really interested in actually getting more grad students and young professionals on the roster for our next couple of interviews.

Keith Edwards:
Yeah. We’ve worked in a few undergrad students in some of our conversation has been tremendously beneficial to the conversation. So that’s great. Paul dream guests?

Paul Brown:
I don’t have one. I struggle with this because especially if I think of residence life people, I mean, these are people who are very giving of their time and love to talk. So if there’s anyone in the field that I want to talk to, it’s not going to be that hard. So I don’t know that I have a dream one because everyone always just steps up.

Keith Edwards:
Everybody says yes to Paul Brown. Good life lesson, good to know. Curtis, who would you love to get?

Curtis Dugar:
Yes. So so this is a twofer here. So our podcast is really story oriented. We love telling, but also listening to stories. So the first person would be Barack Obama, I think just a phenomenal storyteller, but then Ava DuVernay is probably the person I have share stories with us and be able to really help us understand the dynamics of the stories that we’re able to engage with. So those are two for right now.

Keith Edwards:
Jill, would you like to, who’s your dream guest?

Jill Creighton:
Trying to stay in the higher ed lane is hard because the dream guests are probably not in the higher ed lane. But I think for me there’s two, one would be Dr. Jill Biden. I think it’s really fascinating to have a first lady. Who’s also a full-time professor. That’s really unique for our nation and the other is Sandra Oh, because of The Chair. I think it would be really fascinating to hear about how she prepared for her role and how she decided to portray kind of our profession in pop culture, because we’ve also really never seen that in space before either.

Keith Edwards:
Yeah. Awesome. Shawna, who’s your dream guest.

Shawna Patterson-Stephens:
I’m going to copy paste all of the above. And in addition Dr. Julianne Malveaux, she is a phenomenal leader in the field and all the things that she’s doing for the black community in particular as an economist is really vital to thinking about what’s next for HBCUs in particular. So I think she’d be a great guest for the next episode, Dr. Malveaux,

Keith Edwards:
Put it out into the universe. Maybe it’ll come around – good luck to all of you. Mine will be bell hooks. If I hear a bell hooks on that would be my dream guests right there. Let’s go to our third lightning round question coming back to you, Shawna, what’s your number one tip to anyone who’s thinking about starting a podcast. What’s your number one? Tip.

Shawna Patterson-Stephens:
I have a list, but number one is I have a longterm plan for editing. We do all of our editing on our own and are trying to find someone to hire. So our long-term plan for editing.

Keith Edwards:
Yes. We were able to hire production assistance. I think game-changer so just a total game changer. Jill, how about you? What’s your number one pro tip?

Jill Creighton:
Listen to other podcasts. I think you learn so much by learning about what you like to listen to you or what you find awkward or where pauses work and they don’t work where you can take space, but also just other people’s styles can be really, really helpful for you developing your own podcasting style.

Keith Edwards:
And every time I do that, I remember stop talking, let the guests talk. Quiana.

Quina Stone:
Okay. So the meeting after the meeting is kicked and just kicked off season four last Monday. So we’re really excited about that. And thinking about this, I came up with a formula for the number one tip, Stay, Stay Be. Stay relevant, stay relatable, and be strategic. You know, think, know your audience, know what the trends anticipate their needs and you’ll stay on top.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Awesome. Paul pro tips?

Paul Brown:
Resist the urge to preplan too much. Sometimes guests are be like, I want to know all the questions and all the things. And if you go too scripted, it just loses something along the way. So there there’s a, there’s a balance. You’ve got to figure out what is, how much is too much and how much is too little, but don’t try to over over plan for, for guests and other other folks you’re interacting with.

Keith Edwards:
Nadia

Nadia Rosemond:
I was going to say to start it, I feel like so many people have good ideas and then they just lives and dies in their brains. So by your mic, by your headset and just start recording and start the idea and take it from there.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. What about you V?

Dr. V:
Take the amount of work you think you’re going to need to do multiply by three that’s that’s how much you need to start.

Keith Edwards:
I feel like you could apply that to my to-do list. So that’s great life advice. They’re good for podcasts and everything else. Michelle?

Michelle Espino Lira:
I would say, understand your purpose and hold onto it. Don’t try to be anything else outside of what that purpose is.

Keith Edwards:
Josie?

Josie Ahlquist:
Don’t keep it to yourself. Even if you just have the idea, put it out there, whether in a small group or on Twitter, my podcast name was birthed from group think online. And so enjoy that market research process, whether you’re just ideating or are getting ready to push play.

Paul Brown:
I voted for the winner. I was part of that group. That was the winner. Hands down.

Keith Edwards:
Dustin, what’s your tip.

Dustin Ramsdell:
Yeah, mine that I always gave people. I’ve talked to a lot of people over the years they’ve been trying to start shows is be consistent, whatever that means to you, but also to know that you can be to find that I used to go weekly all the way back to those Student Affairs Collective days and even into this show. But now I do every other week, most of the time sprinkling some bonus episodes here and there. But that is the idea to like build, you know, following. And you’re just going to build the rhythm and kind of getting all these skills that people are talking about mastered. It’s important to kind of be consistent because I’ve always done everything all myself the entire time, but being consistent has helped with that.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Dr. Stacy,

Stacey Pearson-Wharton:
I would say get help. I happen to have a professor on my campus whose area of scholarship is podcasting. And so she and I have partnered with her class. And so I get interns from her class every year. And so they take care of editing and social media and all the things like, I don’t know how to edit. I won’t let them teach me. I’m not interested in knowing. No thank you. And so I’ve got bless all y’all who are doing that big up to you, but I’m not that person. And so I think it’s really important to really figure out a way to kind of lean into both your strengths, but also gather help where you can for the places that you aren’t quite as strong.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Awesome. And oh, I lost track Alexandra. Go ahead.

Alexandra Hughes:
I think everyone’s given such really good like tips. I think mine would be to be authentically you. And I say that because as a black woman who is, I’m doing a podcast on student conduct and everything else, there’s a lot of issues and things and topics and whatever that may be. But I have to say that I have been very fortunate and it can be very hard, but just be your authentic self and recognize that people are going to accept that I’m the same silly person on and off. It’s just who I am. So I think be, be your authentic self.

Stacey Pearson-Wharton:
Some times, I have to split a verb.

Keith Edwards:
Making up words – splitting verbs, all sorts of yes. When you’re the host is your, it’s your show. You can do whatever you want. Yes. grant, what’s your number one tip.

Grant Walters:
Yeah. You know, so pushing this out as a, as a function of our association, I mean, we have a lot of educational initiatives and comes out with some things. And so it was trying to find a space where this did something at the rest of our repertoire didn’t so having a vision for that was really, really important. So the podcast had to be different than the other things we do and not replicating it so that people would actually want to go and listen to it. So I think that vision and finding the space for it and what exactly that unique space is, is, was, was important to me.

Keith Edwards:
Well, thank you all I’ll add in for student affairs. Now we committed from the very beginning to having transcripts of every episode both for accessibility and so that people could cite it and go back and quote it and papers and other scholarship, because we do see it as scholarly work and we’ve used Temi to do our transcripts. It’s relatively cheap. We drop it in, we do have to fix it but a 45 minute podcast takes us about 45 minutes to fix the transcript, which when I did my dissertation interviews, each hour was about four hours of transcribing. So for $12 an episode, that’s a heck of a time savings. So that would be mine.

Josie Ahlquist:
Transcripts also increased accessibility and SEO on your website.

Keith Edwards:
There you go. There you go. We were getting some free consultation right here, free consultation.

Alexandra Hughes:
And advice. Make sure you like pay for it to have it transcribed. Don’t don’t do that yourself.

Keith Edwards:
All right. We’ve got our last question. For folks who have watched student affairs now, or listen same question as we always do, the podcast is called student affairs. Now what’s something you’re thinking about now might be related to the conversation, might be an upcoming episode. You’re super excited about my is something that’s heavy on your heart at this moment. So real quickly, what are you pondering, troubling thinking about or something you’re really excited about? We’re going to go to grant.

Grant Walters:
Yeah. several things. And so certainly within our association, our members are dealing with the realities of work and how it’s shifting and morphing and changing. And I know that’s the same everywhere in student affairs certainly anti-racist practices and helping to disassemble those things and how white colleagues can do that. So those are topics that I think we’re trying to tackle specifically, but two episodes we have coming up. We have our women in housing network that is gonna be doing an episode, but do fantastic work in our association. And we’re also gonna doing an episode with Dr. Barbra Pansiri, who is the director of student welfare at the university of Botswana ACUHOI has a south African chapter that does amazing work and they’ve been experiencing the world and the pandemic very differently than us. And so Barbra actually just came to the U S to do a doctoral degree at bowling green state. So I get to chat with her and she’s local now. So that’s kind of fun. But I’m really looking forward to those and seeing where they go.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Alexandra.

Alexandra Hughes:
Yeah. just to tack on to that I agree with what you’re saying, you know, looking at anti-racist work and what we’re doing is something that we’ve definitely, I’ve definitely tackled a lot on in our podcast. I’m always just really excited for those. But I think the episode that I’m excited about for right now is actually one we’re getting into the philosophies of student conduct, you know, there’s this great exodus happening from higher ed, unfortunately. And so there’s a lot of new professionals who are coming in, especially in the student conduct field who don’t necessarily understand, you know, the process or the philosophy, or even like sanctioned all those like unfun things. So really getting people to understand and then breaking it down and something that, you know, our or association may have charged for in the past, right. That, that PD, right. But now it’s like, Hey, these are the things that you can think about. These are the things that will help. So I’m really excited for that. Awesome

Keith Edwards:
Stacey.

Stacey Pearson-Wharton:
At the end of every episode, I always ask every guest what’s the one thing that white people can do to make the world more inclusive. And they’ll be very reactions to it, but nevertheless, the question has been asked and so one of the episodes that’s coming in low and highest right now coming back and at all where we’re putting together all of that copy to be an episode. And so I’m to, to kind of understand that a little bit better. So that’s something I’m excited.

Keith Edwards:
I love it, it repurposing and repackaging things in different formats to be really valuable. That’s awesome. Dustin, what’s what’s with you right now.

Dustin Ramsdell:
Yeah. I mean, in terms of looking forward to future episodes, I try to keep a pretty good runway of episodes. So one that I’m hoping to schedule very soon as of the recording of this episode is with mentor collective. So I’ve been a huge fan of their work. And I think it’s something that, you know, just a lot of the things that we’re talking about is just the model that they have to connect people with high quality mentors. If they’re various institutions can really just be highly impactful and create some really great outcomes. So I’m excited to explore their work in a future episode,

Keith Edwards:
Great. Josie.

Josie Ahlquist:
My podcast is entering a new phase and so I’m looking just as at its ethos and purpose. It’s not just connecting tech and leadership at the beginning in 2016, when it came out, it was really like, Hey, Instagram can be a place to have an impact and make meaning. We are rebuilding what it means to be a leader. And you could call that a reckoning a, a redefinition. And so we need to have real, real conversations about access and emotion and empathy that may have been gaps that we so glaringly saw during this period of time. And so I’m excited in the future to bring that back and not just the, the tools and strategy and tactics that we talked about in the past,

Keith Edwards:
Michelle.

Michelle Espino Lira:
Well, as a faculty member, I just want to give a shout out to all of the student affairs practitioners. Who’ve had to do case management for the past 18 months. And I mean the extraordinary work that you have done to keep students safe. I don’t think you get enough credit for that work. And so I just want to give everybody a shout out for doing that. I have a couple of episodes that are coming up. I’m really excited about. We’re gonna delve into critical quants and look at some amazing scholars who are doing good work with critical quantitative methodologies. And then we’re also going to investigate the carceral state and and talk with scholars who are doing work for formerly incarcerated students and students who are system impacted. So super excited about the episodes coming up.

Keith Edwards:
Terrific.How about you V ?

Dr. V:
In just a few episodes, we’re going to release a conversation with Julie Owen, Danielle Reynolds and Brittany Debbie’s on their work on feminist issues and leadership. And I’m particularly excited about that episode because prior to the hiatus, Julie was the last guest. And so to be able to bring her back and as part of the relaunch season, I think creates a really nice bookend and in not so subtle and fashion kind of creates a good pre post study of where this work was and where it has come in a fairly short period of time. And I think that that message comes across really clearly in imminently practical ways. And so I’m really excited to get that out into the world for people to be able to hear and use.

Keith Edwards:
Awesome, Adam.

Adam Kuhn:
Yeah. Where on hiatus as well. We’d be very much looking forward to picking up some interviews with folks. I mean, our podcast really focuses on kind of the lived experience of folks in student affairs roles. And I don’t think we can continue without really delving into how the pandemic has impacted the lives of our colleagues. And we know that it’s disproportionately affected some of our other, so I really want to spend some time thinking about that and talking about that.

Keith Edwards:
Yeah. Great. Paul.

Paul Brown:
Yeah, those who know me know that I love work talking about residential curriculum, curricular approaches use of promoting student learning in in residence life and student affairs spaces. And there are a number of great folks producing some amazing dissertations on the topic that are coming out like rapid fire. Finally, there’s kind of that I think something broke and now everyone’s talking about it in a deeper way. And so I’ve got a number of those coming up folks talking about their research, a little biased I’m on a few of their dissertation committees, but I think it’s pretty good.

Keith Edwards:
That’s great. That’s great. LaFarin.

LaFarin Meriwether:
Yes. So as Quiana mentioned, we’re in season four. And one of the things that we’re talking about that I’m really excited about is wellness, but not in this cookie cutter way of wellness. For me, as I say all the time, this fallacy of this idea of wellness that we have adopted in student affairs in higher education. And so we’re really going to delve into that and what are the systematic structures that enforced this concept of this fallacy of wellness. And so I’m super excited about it. And what’s going to come out of it and we’re going to have some guests and some counselors and therapists because all of us got therapists. And what does that look like for us in this work?

Keith Edwards:
Awesome. Jill.

Jill Creighton:
There’s two, I want to talk about the first one is an upcoming episode that we just recorded this week. It’s a crossover with the podcast Pivoting Out of Edu, and we had a really blunt and important dialogue about why there is attrition in the field right now and how the great resignation is affecting student affairs and more particularly what higher education can be doing to retain our talent. So that’s a really good conversation coming up. But if you go back and listen to any episode of essay voices, I am so proud of the work we did for our season finale for season four. It was a two part series on reflecting on the aftermath of the Kent State shootings that happened in the 1970s. And I had the privilege of working with Dr. Erica Eckert. Who’s doing just hours and hours and hours of qualitative research on the history.

Jill Creighton:
That’s part, one about kind of laying out the actual facts of the day, because I think we don’t have that correct in our memories and a lot of ways. And then the second part of that episode is I got to interview the original student affairs administrators who responded to the aftermath of Kent state in 1970. That was an incredible conversation. Most of them are in their eighties at this point in time. And they were talking about everything on, you know, how to get students to buses, to how to make our residence hall safe, to mimeograph in thousands of pages, telling students where they should go setting up a rumor mill kind of location because, you know, social media, cell phones, email, none of that existed. So thinking about crisis management then was extraordinarily intense and just one of the best conversations I’ve ever gotten to have as a podcaster.

Keith Edwards:
That’s awesome. Shawna bring us home.

Shawna Patterson-Stephens:
Well, our underlying theme for this upcoming season is decolonizing pedagogy and practice. And so we’re looking at how higher education is deeply tied to other infrastructures within the U S system. And one episode that I’m actually really excited about is with Dr. Heather Shotton. And we’re talking about the ways that we break down understandings of learning and knowledge creation through creativity and again, a wellness response to what it means to create knowledge and higher education as marginalized individuals really excited about that. A fan girl, a little bit told some corny jokes, and I think it’s going to be a great season overall, but that particular episode really fed me that day.

Keith Edwards:
That is awesome. Well, thanks. All of you for sharing so much. This has been terrific. Thanks to each of you for all of your hard work, your guidance, your leadership for paving the way on your podcast and taking the time to join us today on Student Affairs Now/. Thanks to our sponsor for the special bonus episode, Colorado State Online. Colorado State University Online is now offering a fully online master of science and student affairs. This program helped you gain the professional competencies, knowledge and experience to succeed as a higher education administrator. You will earn the same master’s degree and learn from the same faculty as CSU on campus. Students learn more at online.colostate.edu, huge shout out to Nat Ambrosey, the production assistant who makes us all look and sound good. If you’re listening today and not are receiving our newsletter, please visit student affairs now.com. Scroll the bottom and subscribe there to get our update each Wednesday. I’m your host, Keith Edwards. Thanks again to the fabulous guest. All 15 or 20, I’ve lost count of you today who made this all work in this wonderful fashion. Thank you all so much. We will see you all very soon. Make it a great day.

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